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  JW calls Dr. Laura's radio show yesterday

  by mac n cheese in

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  forgive me for the formatting.

  i can never tell how its going to look in advance.

  the call went like this:

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  mac n cheese

  Forgive me for the formatting. I can never tell how it’s going to look in advance. The call went like this: Caller: My family is not talking to me now, because I didn’t attend their Christmas parties. What should I do? Dr. Laura: And why didn’t you attend the parties? Caller: Because I’m one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Dr. Laura: Ah, well, they’re feeling left out. You won’t be celebrating birthdays or any other holidays with them. It’s obviously important to them and you need to understand that. It went on from there, with Dr. Laura being remarkably patient and understanding (NOT usually qualities I associate with her), and finally saying that when someone changes their religion, it causes great upheaval in the family and everyone just needs to cut each side some slack. I was very surprised that the caller seemed totally mystified as to why she would be “shunned” from her family, she said that she’s very grateful for her beliefs and didn’t know why they couldn’t see how much happier she was. I’m also surprised that she felt the need to call Dr. Laura, you would think her congregation would have given her props for the “persecution”. Maybe she’s new and thought she could have it both ways. Most of all, I’m struck by how offended she was at the “shunning” , since that’s what she’ll have to do with people who call themselves her brothers at some point. Sad.
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  To those still "active", what makes you keep going to meetings?

  by Cindi_67 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been reading a lot of posts and a lot of you here on the board, are "active" members, attend all meetings and conventions, go out in field service, even help with quick builds.

  i don't want this to sound like i am disrespecting anybody, but what makes you lead a double life?

  doesn't anybody at the hall notice your lack of interest?

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  mac n cheese

  My spouse does not want to leave (but spouse doesn't like meetings either). At this point, we are still doing the meeting thing to keep the parents happy. Sad and pathetic, I know. At this point, going to meetings is a lot less painful than dealing with the parents' reaction. It's complicated and I'm trying to figure out a way to un-complicate it.
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  2008 study WT will be confiscated from non-publishers

  by mac n cheese in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the literature servant told me that their instructions are to only give one study wt per publisher starting with the january 1st, 2008 issue.

  under no circumstances are they to provide any other copies (if lost or whatever, much like kms are provided now).

  any guests attending the wt study will be provided a copy, but then the servant who gave them the copy must confiscate it after the meeting.

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  mac n cheese

  I'm just repeating what was told to me, completely without me even asking about it. I think they're just over-excited about throwing their weight around. I really think it will go the way of the way the KMs are handed out like candy now. I was just really struck by how enthusiastically he was telling me. Weird.
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  2008 study WT will be confiscated from non-publishers

  by mac n cheese in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the literature servant told me that their instructions are to only give one study wt per publisher starting with the january 1st, 2008 issue.

  under no circumstances are they to provide any other copies (if lost or whatever, much like kms are provided now).

  any guests attending the wt study will be provided a copy, but then the servant who gave them the copy must confiscate it after the meeting.

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  mac n cheese

  The literature servant told me that their instructions are to only give one study WT per publisher starting with the January 1st, 2008 issue. Under no circumstances are they to provide any other copies (if lost or whatever, much like KMs are provided now). Any guests attending the WT study will be provided a copy, but then the servant who gave them the copy must confiscate it after the meeting. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out in real life.
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  Greetings from a recovering mormon

  by FormerMormon in

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  greetings from the other side of the street,.

  i just loved having you guys proselytizing on the other side of the street when we were tracting.

  i am a recovering mormon with a believing spouse / family.

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  mac n cheese

  I started out on exmormon.org. The stories there were so eerily similar to my experience as a JW that I finally got the nerve to come over here. For me, it was just how you hope it goes with your wife. But I also kept quiet about what I read on exmormon,org, so I wouldn't cause trouble with my family, because they knew it was a slippery slope (internet research on religion equals BAD, APOSTATE). Best of luck with your wife, I am in the same boat with my spouse. I actually had that discussion with my spouse, asking that if they had been born a Muslim, Lutheran, Mormon or anything else, would they still stay that religion even after they discovered it wasn't the true religion? The response was "Yes, I guess so. Sad, isn't it?" There are small cracks in the armor, so patience is what you'll need most of all.
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  Tell Me About Your Jehovah's Witness Mother...If You had One!

  by new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so since no one picked up the ball, after my thread on "your jw father".....here we go.... my mother (bless her heart) was born in kansas in 1926....her mother died in 1934, when my mother was 8 years old.

  she died trying to give yourself an abortion with a coat hanger.

  it was the "great depression".....she was 34 years old 4 kids and a 5th on the way...my grandfather would blow through town just long enough to "knock her up" and leave....no money....no hope.

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  Manipulator sexual abuser mental abuser emotional abuser slandered my dad everywhere after he was disfellowshipped narcissist mercenary surrounds herself with "yes men" the elders believe every word she says destroyed my spouse's reputation with her lies and vindictiveness
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  Christmas accident

  by startingover in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i think this guy not only lost his legs but he probably got df'd too.

  what do you think?

  the date was 1965, probably from a mpls newspaper.

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  This is bizarre! I used to live in the San Francisco Bay Area 15 years ago and there was an elder by that name, with 2 fake legs. Same guy? His wife was not a witness then, maybe the tree was for her?
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  Newbies - Give us your stories....

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  most of old posters have hashed and re-hashed our backgrounds, history, and method of discovering the 'truth about the truth'.. your turn newbies!.

  those who are lurking without the benefit of registration - it only takes a minute, and you too can give us your stories!.

  those registered lurkers - what holds you back?

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  mac n cheese

  The usual holds me back - fear of discovery. But one day, when I have lost that fear, I will PM you and let you know. Keep up the great posts, I live for them!

  -Mac
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  For Lurkers Only

  by nvrgnbk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are you an active jehovah's witness?.

  i was when i found this place.. this place, jwd, didn't change that.. i knew that so many things were wrong with the organization.

  i was an elder.

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  mac n cheese

  Hello,

  I've been lurking for over a year, reading almost every day. I'm a 3rd generation JW, so is my spouse. We have been deeply involved since early childhood,
  although both of us have never really fit in. Our elder/pioneer couple status, plus our great desire to help out people within the group in a dignified
  and respectful way has let us get away with not really fitting in for years. It's SO nice to be here, amongst people who actually think logically, have a great sense
  of humour, and who are SO kind (as evidenced by the original post). We both went to university and endured the lambasting, but never lost privileges over it.

  But for the last few years, we have not been attending meetings regularly. No more elder/pioneer couple thing for us and we do not miss it. Our families are not really
  aware of what's really going on, but they don't like it, even though they KNOW the horrible things that happened in our congregation that ended up screwing us over. No
  matter, it finally broke the dam and now we are free to think for ourselves, and it feels GREAT. Thank goodness we have each other. However, my spouse does not know I am on this
  site, reading, posting (rarely), and waiting for the right moment to leave. My spouse will leave only after there are no more options and certain parents will be dead.

  You all have helped me so much, someday I hope to tell you how, in detail. I'm going back to lurking, but I'll be reading.

  Thank you all, especially Blondie for the WT summaries.

  Mac n Cheese
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  MAT 24:14 HAS BEEN FULLFILLED MP3 FROM BETHEL HEAVY

  by What-A-Coincidence in

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  2. friends

  warning: the wtbts is becoming more cultish as evidenced in this mp3.

  listener take heed.

  turn on all your cult warning alarms on.. .

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  mac n cheese

  Hello all,

  I've been lurking here for more than a year, never thinking I would post. THIS thread, however, demands a response from me. I'm just shaking my head, not
  believing what I'm hearing. I've heard Leon Weaver speak before and even "hung out" with him and his wife, Ruby. He can be all over the place, thundering here
  and there, and only on occasion have I heard this "I'm-gonna-tell-you-a-secret" voice. It's just his style. He's quite a nice guy with a great sense of humor. (I guess it's not him after all?)

  However, this just about ends it for me and now I don't know what I'll do with myself. "No one knows the day or the hour, not even the Son." I don't think there's any
  way anyone can get around this, especially if they believe the Bible.

  As for me, my experience is common: raised as a JW, never went to college, pioneered for years. I've always had doubts but have only recently been allowing myself to
  think about them in any rational light. I realize now that this is just another apocolyptic religion. The whole thing is getting to be a drag. Meanwhile, the other
  things I'm finally letting myself do (have "worldly" friends, skip meetings, applying for college) have all been fantastic experiences for me. I always thought that
  these things were "bad". Now I know that's not true and that they don't know ANYTHING about ME and MY needs in life.

  Sorry to hijack this thread, but to the person (WAC) who first posted this: Thank You. Your post may have just saved me.

  MAC

  P.S. (I hope I haven't stolen someone's posting name - it's what I was eating when I first registered. I have no imagination.)